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There is no gross in the water. There never was. The border is ours, we were taught it, and we can move it.
No. 9 The Lines We Drew — the invention of "normal" & the constructed line
No. 15 Every Creature's Own Sky — Umwelt & the double empathy problem
No. 27 Every Nervous System — more-than-human neurodiversity & reclaiming animality
No. 28 Wyrd & Weird — Helen Edgar, on the word we did take back
No. 32 The Skeleton That Skipped Bone — cartilage, loss & the cure frame
No. 33 The Ick Is a Border — disgust, the deep sea & projective disgust ← you are here
A thread to follow
When did you last feel the flinch — and what did you do in the two seconds after?
Whose body has been treated as the thing everyone politely doesn't mention?
What were you taught was private, and who pays the cost of that lesson?
The Ick Is a Border is Zine No. 33 in the Stimpunks Star Stuff series. It is a house zine and a deliberate companion to Wyrd & Weird (28), Helen Edgar's guest zine on weird — the word this community did reclaim. Weird is hers and the reclamation is hers; this zine takes the neighbouring word, gross, which works differently and is disarmed rather than worn. It extends Every Nervous System (27) and The Council of All Beings (25) into the territory of disgust, and continues the account of constructed lines begun in The Lines We Drew (9). Written after The Skeleton That Skipped Bone (32), for the same young person, whose marine biology special interest is the reason both exist.
Corrected after publication — and the correction is the important part. The first published version of this zine argued that the ick is learned, full stop. Helen Edgar, who taught children with profound and multiple learning disabilities for twenty years, read it and pointed out that it presumes a cognitive, intellectualising response — and that pre-term babies, and the young people she has worked with, plainly have an ick without one. She is right, and the literature is unambiguous. Rozin's own framework separates distaste — a chemosensory rejection tied to a thing's actual properties, producing the highly conserved "gape face," present at birth and observed in utero — from disgust proper, which Rozin describes as ideationally based and contamination-sensitive, and which you can feel about a cockroach without tasting one. The strongest evidence for how deep the first one runs is Jacob Steiner's (1973) observations of the gustofacial response in anencephalic newborns, who produce it without most of a higher brain: the response does not require a cortex, and therefore cannot be an opinion. Spread 3 now makes that distinction before the argument starts, and the argument is explicitly scoped to the ideational kind. Helen's second point is the one that goes deepest and is now in the zine's own voice: we are not blank slates — that is the point of star stuff; we have history in us. A response conserved across species and present before birth is exactly that history, and the earlier draft was, in effect, arguing against this collection's own premise. Autistic and otherwise neurodivergent sensory aversion is distaste, not prejudice, and spread 11 now says so in a refusal.
Sources & notes. On the distaste/disgust distinction: Rozin, P., Haidt, J. & McCauley, C. R., on disgust as "an entirely new category of ideationally based, contamination-sensitive revulsion," distinguished from sensory distaste. Steiner, J. E. (1973). The gustofacial response: observation on normal and anencephalic newborn infants. On disgust: Rozin, P. & Fallon, A. E. (1987). A perspective on disgust. Psychological Review, 94(1), 23–41 — source of disgust as a food-related emotion (revulsion at the prospect of oral incorporation), of the observation that disgust objects are virtually all of animal origin, of the ontogeny across roughly the first eight years, and of the laws of sympathetic magic including the law of contagion. Nussbaum, M. C. (2004). Hiding from Humanity: Disgust, Shame, and the Law. Princeton University Press — source of projective disgust, and of the account in which subordinated groups serve as buffers against the vulnerable animal nature we would rather deny. On Osedax: Rouse, G. W., Goffredi, S. K. & Vrijenhoek, R. C. (2004). Osedax: bone-eating marine worms with dwarf males. Science, 305(5684), 668–671 — females consuming whale bone through a vascularised root system, lacking a discrete trophosome, with numerous dwarf paedomorphic males living in the females' tubes. On the anglerfishes: Swann, J. B., Holland, S. J., Petersen, M., Pietsch, T. W. & Boehm, T. (2020). The immunogenetics of sexual parasitism. Science, 369(6511), 1608–1615 — genomes of species with temporarily attaching males lack functional aicda; permanent attachment is associated with further alterations "culminating in the loss of functional rag genes in some species, abolishing somatic diversification of antigen receptor genes, the hallmark of canonical adaptive immunity." On whale falls: Smith, C. R. & Baco, A. R. (2003). Ecology of whale falls at the deep-sea floor. Oceanography and Marine Biology: An Annual Review, 41, 311–354 — read in the primary; source of the three successional stages and their durations, of the sleeper sharks, hagfish and rat-tails removing soft tissue at 40–60 kg per day, of the enrichment-opportunist densities (up to 40,000 m⁻²), of the sulphophilic stage lasting decades with a mean of 185 macrofaunal species (higher than any other deep-sea hard substratum community), of the 407 species globally and 21 known only from whale falls, and of the ~2,000-year equivalent pulse of background organic-carbon flux to the underlying sediments.
Held honestly. Rozin and Fallon's account is a theory of disgust, not the only one, and the claim made here is the modest one their evidence supports: the objects of disgust are substantially learned and culturally variable, and the response overshoots any physical fact. That some disgust responses track genuine pathogen risk is not disputed. The whale-fall figures are means and estimates from a review of a small, poorly sampled set of sites — Smith and Baco say so themselves — and should be read as order-of-magnitude. The anglerfish immune losses vary by species and are not uniform across the group; "gave up the line between self and other" is our phrasing of a genetic finding, and adaptive immunity is not the whole of self/non-self discrimination. A note on a familiar quotation: "dirt is matter out of place" is widely attributed to Mary Douglas's Purity and Danger (1966), and she did make it famous — but it is not her coinage. It appears unreferenced in her first edition and is credited in later editions to Lord Chesterfield without a source; the earliest located use is an 1853 address by Lord Palmerston. We have not used the line as hers, and neither should anyone else. Finally: the ethics do not come from the biology. That the ocean is full of arrangements we find upsetting is not why anyone deserves welcome — as about.html puts it, we are noticing a rhyme, not collecting a proof.
The star stuff is Carl Sagan's, and the SN 1006 remnant on every Stimpunks page. The universe doesn't pathologize its own variation — and it has never once found any of us disgusting.